R241 God, Murphy sounds like an insufferable mean girl fag! [52], Melanie McFarland of Salon called the writing "creatively wicked" and the series "outrageously fantastic", praising Lange and Sarandon for their performances and for "tempering their decadent rages and vengeful spats with a gutting sense of loneliness that tempers its lightness in solemnity. Baitz wasattached to showrun that series and even got a 10-episode order from FX. Take a look at Hello. More than an acquaintance but less than good friends. [quote]all either created for him or offered directly to him. But that doesnt mean we each didnt have 20 glorious minutes imagining how Ryan Murphy might get rid of Kurt Hummel. Now, you can start pissing on his writing which isn't that brilliant, though kids seem to love the stories and characters and have made it a commercial success plus international editions. Always went out of his way to tell the media that he's "just a mercenary" and happy to do what he's told. So true. Literally the day before the pilot was to start shooting creative went to sign Diana. can no jazz saxophonist ever solo with their irises showing?). it's really a question of how unprofessional you think RM would be. It's not as bad as it used to be but Chris still get's shitty comments sent to him whenever he posts a picture of Will. She comes out not in the best light in her description of the relationships with Mark Salling and other Glee actors (flirted with Cory, had a fling with Chord, in addition to dating the screenwriter) and Big Sean. Notice the EPIC drop off after Seasons 1 and Seasons 2. I've always avoided any TV shows created by Ryan Murphy as being largely garbage. I was referring to the Glee Project's first season. Press J to jump to the feed. Prepare for a, "Their movie made millions. Ryan Murphy was referring to Chris Colfer there, who said exactly that. A little cash could coax all of them to do the inevitable Glee reboot as adults. Murphys television often has a marmite quality. I always thought he had a big cock, I'd love to know if anyone (besides Ryan M) had him. Interestingly, the show rankled Christian conservatives in America but the session singers were Christian and conservativewell, as conservative as you can be and still work in the industry in LA.. [quote]the session singers were Christian and conservative. RM is clearly being mean. It got to be ridiculous. They turn him into a zombie and create a Gleezombie spinoff hit called The Singing Dead, in which Kurt exists as the teacher of a group of misfit zombies who have to work together to find their voices to really live. R136 unfortunately i think you might be correct. I remember when Idina Menzel came in to play Rachel's birth mother. It's interesting to revisit after all this time. Meaning what, you have one scene? B285629 Slip Opinion", "Supreme Court won't hear Olivia de Havilland case that, "Nicole Kidman Speaks Out Against Abuse in Golden Globes Speech", "Golden Globes: Nicole Kidman Wins Best Actress in a Limited Series for 'Big Little Lies', "Golden Globes 2018 live: All the winners from Hollywood's awards night", "Hollywood Music in Media Awards: Full Winners List", http://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/Downloads/69th-nominations-list-v1ry.pdf, "The Television Critics Association Announces 2017 TCA Award Nominees", "Writers Guild Award TV Nominations: 'The Americans,' 'Handmaid's Tale,' 'GLOW' Grab Multiple Mentions", "2018 Producers Guild Award Nominations: The Full List of Film and TV Nominees", Dahmer Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Feud_(TV_series)&oldid=1146962521, 2010s American anthology television series, Television controversies in the United States, Television series by 20th Century Fox Television, Television series created by Ryan Murphy (writer), All articles with bare URLs for citations, Articles with bare URLs for citations from March 2022, Articles with PDF format bare URLs for citations, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using multiple image with auto scaled images, Articles with unsourced statements from July 2019, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, Jaffe Cohen & Michael Zam and Ryan Murphy, In 1978, filmmaker Adam Friedman interviews. Jamie Lee Curtis has a small part as the college Dean. I only watched "Glee" for Mike O'Malley & Jane Lynch. r327, you are indeed correct. 
Jacob Artist has popped up on different shows in guest roles and he also did a gay short film. Lea Michele and her tv mother, Idina Menzel aka Adele Dazeem, did I Dreamed A Dream as a duet. Yeah Blake Jenner was the only winner of the three who was successful on the show, he actually could act well by Glee standards (and that body!). That was pretty presumptuous of him. [11][25], For Capote's Women, Naomi Watts was cast to star as Babe Paley in April 2022. Plus there's nothing about being bi in her book where she actually cops to having an abortion from her subsequent husband, now ex. The students are all sent to Thailand on a trip and Kurt ends up in jail. Jackie Hoffman joined the cast as Mamacita, Crawford's housekeeper. I think for a feud to work on this show, it has to have decades of pain behind it. Ali Stroker later came out as bisexual and was in relationship with Dani Shay who did America's Got Talent prior to The Glee Project. i really liked the Irish guy. I don't watch but wasn't the initial thing that they wouldn't have any one on that had prior dance training at all? Or just make up stories for a check? I only saw the second season, Was he as obnoxious as Charlie, the aspie from that season? I was glued to it in its first season. Agron had auditioned and been turned down originally. The dancers are Harry Shum, Morrison, McHale on a few occasions, and the black nameless guy in the first season. They do also not hold back much on some of the stuff they disliked or thought was dumb/too absurd/etc. She might as well become a lesbian since she has so little luck with men. Both Chris and Darren have a female fanbase. [quote]The former Glee co-stars had their first date in 2009, and it didnt bode well for their relationship: Rivera claims that Salling, 34, got stoned in his complete piece of st car and took her to In-N-Out Burger, then to Fright Fest at Six Flags, where he took a slew of pictures with performers at the park and none with her. Which season did Kurt's father get married in? His film projects have gone nowhere: the Noel Coward film, the Indigo tv series, The Land of Stories film adaptation. I'll have you know I am a featured star of ABC's fabulous new miniseries, "When We Rise," R11! So she was always on, which is a tremendous burden in and of itself, but always there was this thing lurking underneath of being this poverty-stricken, abused, unloved, abandoned young child and woman. We didnt want to do it then. Who was the actress originally cast as Quinn? If only he'd stop singing "unchusual.". Theres a career-best turn from Emma Roberts as an alpha mean girl, while Ariana Grande demonstrates her acting chops as she is bumped off early in season one. I don't remember if he had something else going on towards the end of "Popular" but it got a bit dark, too dramatic and it was soon over. "Glee" was a victim of its popularity, it was forced to become the thing it was originally parodying. Was he hustling? r376. Are she and Lea close? My guess is that any fundies watching that broadcast had their heads explode like at the end of [italic]Scanners[/italic] before they could start a boycott! Poor Chris Colfer believed his press, believed that he was a beloved star, and believed he was going to have a fantastic post-Glee career. "[51] On Metacritic, the series has a score of 81 out of 100, based on 44 critics, indicating "universal acclaim". The fallout must've been really bad because Colfer and Murphy never acknowledged each other ever again. You could also see glimmers of what a petulant mean girl Murphy could be on that reality show where kids competed for roles on Glee. 
Is it any good? There were only two seasons. Get the drama behind the scenes. Is that why they brought in that Down's Syndrome girl as Sue's minion? Murphy: I think that some of those actors representatives spun it in a certain way, to be quite honest, I dont understand. Plus it ruins the alliteration (is that the right term? click ACCEPT. R272 This may or may not be 2:30 of Corey Monteith fucking a guy with his uncut, Prince Alberted cock. R282, that's what they were looking for, someone with "everyman" looks. I am sorry, but I have to disagree. The original boys were kind of meh. More than that, Murphy went back to the press to blame the actors for the demise of the spinoff. R464: There are rumors that Murphy axed Ashley Fink to get back at Chris Colfer. Heather Morris was initially brought in to teach the Single Ladies dance, not to be a full fledged character. The series (subtitled Bette and Joan in anticipation of future seasons) centers on the backstage battle between Bette Davis (Susan Sarandon) and Joan Crawford (Jessica Lange) during and after the production of their 1962 film What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?.[1]. Criss's "I Dreamed a Dream" is, well, it's not my cup of tea, let's just say that. The Lea/Morrison hookup was common knowledge among Broadway/theater people -- long before the rest of the US discovered them in GLEE. This was also around the time of the show getting a multi-season renewal, which was just tempting the gods. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. [46], Feud had its official premiere at the Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles on March 1, 2017. In a reversal of fortune that would make Crawford cackle in her grave, its likely that shell be the one up for awards at the end of the year rather than her co-star. [40] FX released another teaser on January 23, two on February 5, one on February 7, and one on February 8. R176 No, Chris Colfer is secretly straight! It peaked with Jonathan Groff's Bohemian Rhapsody performance. Is this thing on? Was he one of the male actors who slept with Ryan Murphy? The pilot was very exciting with the aforementioned black comedy. That kid is a climber who surrounds himself with climbers. Did Chrissy Colfer sleep with Murphy? Unless, of course, that relationship was with someone who had a sizable stash of child porn on his computer. The answer to R359's question would appear self-evident to anyone who ever observed either of the two parties mentioned. doesn't mean it was actually good. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Probably the biggest " unsung heroes" of the Glee "cast" are the session singers who stood in for the cast whenever backing vocals had to be recorded. And the constant stream of people telling Quinn what a horrible spoiled brat she was. It hasn't been long enough yet for full blown nostalgia, but definitely long enough for some distance and perspective. What r311 said, I don't know where some people get this crap but Chris Colfer was openly gay long before Darren Criss joined the show. Brennan remained EP on Glee till the end. Hated seeing him with Tina since they had zero chemistry. The writing was terrible and the vast majority of the actors weren't particularly talented or attractive. Thanks for all the fascinating tea! Simpson.[65][66]. R1: They weren't exactly friendly with each other because the crazy fans thought they were a couple in real life. I'll be curious to see what kind of work Grant and Melissa get when their shows end. None of the original cast besides Jane Lynch couldn't even get another successful TV series. How did it seem so, R99? I think money wise Chris Colfer made bank with his children books. Fans blew up at Murphy who, true to form, got pissy and blamed the whole episode on Colfer and Cory Monteith. Weirdly, I'm bingeing on glee right now. Blake Jenner stopped posting on his Instagram when Melissa Benoist wrote her allegations (never naming him although it was clearly him). I wonder how Ryan felt about Chris winning a Golden Globe and getting to meet Julianne Moore. Not Kurt. So many fucking guys wanted the role of Finn, they all did. It's like Darren ripped it off from Chord. It was too premature. Jane Lynch's character would have been a better fit for that song and it could have been somewhat moving, but all plot and character went out the window by season 2. 5. You so ghetto. There was a rumor that Pettyfer knocked her up and her management team told her to abort it for her career. That alone deserves him a push into a grease fire pit. I want to know who was fucking who & what kind of drugs everyone was doing. Trips around the world. They drove each other crazy", "Jessica Lange is Joan Crawford. Just ask the paint on Mark Salling's Lexus. Blind Gossip said one day that Colfer and Criss were a secret couple, and the next day that they hated each other. The results are simply devastating. The excerptLa Cte Basque 1965included intimate detailsaboutBabe's unhappy marriage to CBS founderWilliam S. Paley. And Taylor's tweet was promptly deleted and replaced. Yep, at first it did have that dark comedy vibe. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. [quote]The first season reminded me very much of the movie, "Election" - the same slightly dark undertone and feel. He turned 19 eight days after the pilot aired on May 19, 2009. Then it was reworked as a TV script for Murphy's production company, with Murphy, Falchuk and Brennan as executive producers. Alongside his enthusiasm for high-school song and dance clubs and Lady Gaga as a vampire (see below), Murphy has a huge passion for Old Hollywood. Later, when Heather wanted to reduce her commitment and Naya wanted to be less bitchy, they reunited the two halves of Quinn's character back into one with Kitty, which was probably the iteration of Quinn closest to what Ryan had intended from the pilot. I pointed out in the recent thread that maybe, though this appears nowhere in the interview, he was happy that quinn's character got changed, even if the original idea was ruined, because it made her better. I also think any specific tension was more professional than personal, but RM has admitted to crossing that line too much with the cast, so he may have gone about it wrong. I thought Naya had the most potential. But he's got a great body--I would not kick him out of bed for eating crackers. R186 Brad Pitt isn't well-endowed, and she was engaged to him. R11 There's something about him that always rubbed me the wrong way. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. She'll be fine in the long run if she plays her cards right. She is most well known for her appearance in Battle of the Fittest Couples but she has appeared in other television series such as The Vampire Diaries (The CW), Lucifer (Netflix), Timeless (NBC), Kurt is almost always crying in the first two seasons. R346 Ha! Darren was a total team player and did his best to get along with everybody and that made Chris even more furious, because he couldn't get anyone to join his side until Lea needed someone to join her to get rid of her enemies (like Naya). R343 I never watched that GLEE project show. He was some devout Christian with some hyper activity disorder (sorry, can't remember the exact one) and he had some freak out for having to perform on Last Chance Performance (basically the Lipsync for your life - Rupaul's Drag Race - segment) and acted like the show demands of him to take a shit on his Christian beliefs. I love this thread! She wasn't a minor character. She ignored him and looked down the floor avoiding eye contact. [quote]however, those aren't major things. Bette and Joan learn some intimate details about each other, but their animosity climaxes on set as filming winds down. But what happens is when you have a cast of nobodies that suddenly in a week are on the cover of every major magazine in the world and getting involved in sex scandals and drug scandals, we all went off the rails on that show. Ryan Murphy directed People vs OJ, but it wasn't his creation. Its a charming piece of period drama but more importantly a galvanising argument why we should celebrate our differences and refuse to let the moral majority shame or shape us. Chris Colfer is much less fey in person, while Darren Criss is much more so. It was a ratings hit and songs were smash hit downloads on iTunes. I've always wondered how Kevin McHale felt about scenes like the "Roar" performance, where he's dressed to go on safari and all the others are dressed like Tarzan and Jane. Once again, Murphy assembles a top-rank cast, including Kate Mara, Billy Porter and James Van Der Beek. Good job. Forever. It was all Murphy's fault. Check out the killer opening titles from, "This Is the Super Bowl Commercial All TV Fans Are Talking About", "Feud: Bette and Joan review dueling Hollywood dames make for frothy drama", "Dame Olivia de Havilland sues US network FX for 'completely false' portrayal in new series, "De Havilland v. FX Networks LLC, et al., Case No. Especially when Ryan pretty much was done with Glee after season 3. it's annoying when people say that RM had a vendetta against Chris. [27][28] The following month, Demi Moore and Molly Ringwald were added to the cast. Ryan Murphy wanted her out, and Quinn became homeless, a punk, a baby snatcher, a paraplegic, and a fake-lesbian, until she finally stopped showing up altogether. I'd bet money that Melissa eventually comes out about all of it and a bunch of Murphy actors back her up because Lea is pretty well hated. Actually, the first 13 episodes were the best and could've easily been truncated into an ELECTION-like black comedy. The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story, 2018. Hahaha I'll watch you on youtube bitch! They were generally fun. She came back I think in the competition and sang "Buenos Aires" from Evita. She's an okay actress, but Diana and Naya were better. I agree, they brought absolutely NOTHING to the show. Remember when Rachel & Kurt broke into the Gershwin theater to see where Wicked was performed? The only time he reminds people of his existence is at the book launches. [Quote] How did Lea and Melissa get along? At the end of that show I vowed Id never do that again, and I feel it didnt happen with American Horror Story, I didnt go out to dinner every night with my cast, I wasnt socializing with them a lot. "It was just too vast and expensive. Fucking ridiculous. R366: He had great PR but he made the decision to transition to writing. I can't stand Lea Michelle in real life, but Rachel was a good character and Lea was a natural fit for her. Murphys first show is a high-school drama that plays out like Glee without the songs. His years on American Horror Story qualify him to do something spectacular. Changing story lines in order to punish actors makes no sense. Those were Finn and Rachel. Matthew Morrison is another one who is attractive on stage but looks very strange in closeup on screen because of his oversized features. Finn would have attempted something boring like learning to be a football coach (hardly any chance to get some music, or musical, icons doing guest appearances). [R156] I don't think money is the issue for both of them, but no matter how much money Colfer got he'll never be on Broadway and that's eating him every day and that's why he's so jealous of Darren. They believe they were dissed because a real disabled person was not cast. Ratched relays the origin story of the despotic nurse from Milos Formans 1975 Oscar winner. And like Andy he also starts threads about himself. The Dianna stuff is mostly based on things Ryan has said (which I think are taken out of context) about Dianna "ruining" Quinn by making her too likable. r491 I know, so stupid. I mean, that decision haunts you for the rest of your life. I always wondered what the deal with her and Cory Monteith'a relationship was. When the network ordrred the second half of the first season, some things were retooled, including pregnancy subplots. So there are few surprises. So unrealistic and the same thing just kept happening over and over. We were going to do a spin-off where the three of them were going to go on. factor. [quote]You could also see glimmers of what a petulant mean girl Murphy could be on that reality show where kids competed for roles on Glee. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google And you never hear about him getting in any trouble. R333 could you elaborate on that? I don't think her namewas ever made public but she came from Disney, [quote]I don't think her namewas ever made public but she came from Disney. [quote] Ryan Murphy and Dianna Agron hated each other. And further, I didn't say that they weren't going to write her out, I said I found it hard to believe that they didn't flesh those story lines out prior to, not that they didn't. Cameron Mitchell was a bigger douchebag than Samuel. Did they fuck or is that a fan girl rumor? You couldn't have Finn go to NY and try to make it in Broadway. They didn't get along but i can't see Lea cockblocking Melissa. Ashley Fink was meant to be a bit player and was brought back as a potential mate for Puck during very stressful contract negotiations to punish Mark Salling and push him out of the show. Maybe it was her. Ryan Murphy Admits 'Glee' Should Have Ended When Its 'Spirit of Joy' Left After Cory Monteith's Death Kevin McHale Calls 'The Price of Glee' Docuseries Trash: 'Don't Make Me Speak on This Again' Nothing really exceptional about it, that's how things work in development. One of the themes running through Murphys work has been his advocacy for the shunned, misunderstood and marginalised. "Glee" was a massive world-wide phenomenon at one point. I think he's doing ok that he doesn't need to be jealous of Darren. Kit Harington joins as the CEO of a green tech company, but dont bet on ethics. [quote]There were many boys on our show that didn't get along. i think she had a two episode trek. I feel like there was lots of talk that Chris Colfer and Darren Criss didn't really get along Lord, if you were Darren Criss and you had to act like you loved miss woman, you wouldnt be happy about it either. A really great half-season show that ran for six. Where Feud was all snark and spite, Hollywood is dreamy wish fulfilment on a pogo-stick. The Glee member with even the remotest possibility of posting on online forums (gay or otherwise) would be Kevin McHale, and even he has better things to do. Ryan did say that Dianna ruined Quinn, but he went on to say that Quinn was written to be an unsympathetic bitch and Dianna made her sympathetic. In his early his thirties, Murphy was clearly finding his feet creatively. Now DREAMGIRLS original london cast. Karofsky was cute! Speaking of climbers, Naya Rivera has a terrible mean streak, but you really have to earn it. He couldn't sing, couldn't dance. I do think that chris was not 'bullied' but something approaching that on set but that this may have been more from lea with nobody intervening, which naya refers to in her book and chris endorsed. I hated the dreadlocked guy from season 1. "[15] The Crawford-Davis feud was also documented in Shaun Considine's 1989 book Bette and Joan: The Divine Feud. That actress backed out at the last minute. After Chord returned from his "quitting" Ryan turned him into a male stripper so he'd have to show more skin which was something Chord had been uncomfortable with. I may check it out. Ian Brennan originally wrote it as a screenplay and had been shopping it around studios for a few years. R135 Ghetto trying to be posh always end up failing. [quote] What was the deal with Agron and Michele? With Cuba Gooding Jr as OJ, David Schwimmer as his lawyer best pal Robert Kardashian (father of Kim), John Travolta as shark-like defence attorney Robert Shapiro and Sarah Paulson as prosecutor Marcia Clark, season one of American Crime Story turned the Simpson story inside out. Of course none of this was why FOX scrapped the spinoff but Murphy didn't want to admit failure. That was fucking weird. R259 or anyone else. No. The audience loved him right away. R447: Never been in syndication. "Transexual" is not a bad word, is it? A month later, Rivera says that Salling convinced her to try ecstasy with him. At least it ended when it did and didn't overstay its welcome like Friends and Modern Family. Groff was fucking one of the choreographers. Jack forces Aldrich to create a power play between the two actresses for hype. Rachel pining for Finn could've been spread over a whole season and created a lot of interesting plots. Well, every celebrity has some tards who are psychos and overly invested. r334, my apologies. Murphys greatest hit and a series that was divisive from the start. Things you buy through our links may earnVox Mediaa commission. Off subject, when did they change that rule on DWTS. The later additions had the most success: Darren Criss, Grant Gustin, Melissa Benoist. Will they be coming back? He also auditioned for another jock. why is Darren Criss pronouncing it as "It's not UnJewsual" ? Are you interested? Turns outthe New York Academy of the Dramatic Arts (NYADA) was just a front for an elaborate drug-smuggling ring. Real. I forget. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, "The New Normal" was killed before he could get bored with that. Murphy passed on Aaron Tveit because he was too good-looking. this is another point: critics weren't shy in the early seasons to say dianna and chris were the best of the young actors, and used RM as the figurehead of glee to blame all their crappy plots on. It makes sense, though. On a Thursday afternoon in early December, Susan Sarandon was on the set of Ryan Murphys much-anticipated drama Feud, examining a prop Oscar. (edit: if wondering why reviews didn't point out lines/insults to others: they did, not as much as far as I remember, but the point was that while insults to others seemed charming, quinn and kurt were painted badly.) No, the peak of "Glee" remains the first 13 episodes of Season 1. He had to have been pissed about how everything went down. The Quentin Fleming character is an author and Jessica Lange basically says to him that she paved the way for his successful book series. [citation needed], Feud received highly positive reviews, with major praise for Lange and Sarandon's performances. BTW, by "he's not", I meant he's not all that nice. Also his future in Hollywood is not so bright if he even has any. all the 'evidence' of songs for the pair can go either way: on the one hand, they both were made to sing too high a lot (this could be for story, but I would have thought the show would prefer to have them sound good above all), on the other hand, they got time warp which was clearly there just for chris and dianna. It's one of those shows that has been tainted with the scandals, deaths, and diminishing quality of each season. [29][30] In March 2023, Chris Chalk announced his involvement in the season. She dared to challenge Ryan Murphy on her character's lack of dimension and she paid for it. Unlike you R243-who uses the f-word. [quote]I said two things in an interview: I said, yes, they are graduating and they will not be back on the show for Season Four. R113 understand the difference between lead character and major character.
Jacob Artist has popped up on different shows in guest roles and he also did a gay short film. Lea Michele and her tv mother, Idina Menzel aka Adele Dazeem, did I Dreamed A Dream as a duet. Yeah Blake Jenner was the only winner of the three who was successful on the show, he actually could act well by Glee standards (and that body!). That was pretty presumptuous of him. [11][25], For Capote's Women, Naomi Watts was cast to star as Babe Paley in April 2022. Plus there's nothing about being bi in her book where she actually cops to having an abortion from her subsequent husband, now ex. The students are all sent to Thailand on a trip and Kurt ends up in jail. Jackie Hoffman joined the cast as Mamacita, Crawford's housekeeper. I think for a feud to work on this show, it has to have decades of pain behind it. Ali Stroker later came out as bisexual and was in relationship with Dani Shay who did America's Got Talent prior to The Glee Project. i really liked the Irish guy. I don't watch but wasn't the initial thing that they wouldn't have any one on that had prior dance training at all? Or just make up stories for a check? I only saw the second season, Was he as obnoxious as Charlie, the aspie from that season? I was glued to it in its first season. Agron had auditioned and been turned down originally. The dancers are Harry Shum, Morrison, McHale on a few occasions, and the black nameless guy in the first season. They do also not hold back much on some of the stuff they disliked or thought was dumb/too absurd/etc. She might as well become a lesbian since she has so little luck with men. Both Chris and Darren have a female fanbase. [quote]The former Glee co-stars had their first date in 2009, and it didnt bode well for their relationship: Rivera claims that Salling, 34, got stoned in his complete piece of st car and took her to In-N-Out Burger, then to Fright Fest at Six Flags, where he took a slew of pictures with performers at the park and none with her. Which season did Kurt's father get married in? His film projects have gone nowhere: the Noel Coward film, the Indigo tv series, The Land of Stories film adaptation. I'll have you know I am a featured star of ABC's fabulous new miniseries, "When We Rise," R11! So she was always on, which is a tremendous burden in and of itself, but always there was this thing lurking underneath of being this poverty-stricken, abused, unloved, abandoned young child and woman. We didnt want to do it then. Who was the actress originally cast as Quinn? If only he'd stop singing "unchusual.". Theres a career-best turn from Emma Roberts as an alpha mean girl, while Ariana Grande demonstrates her acting chops as she is bumped off early in season one. I don't remember if he had something else going on towards the end of "Popular" but it got a bit dark, too dramatic and it was soon over. "Glee" was a victim of its popularity, it was forced to become the thing it was originally parodying. Was he hustling? r376. Are she and Lea close? My guess is that any fundies watching that broadcast had their heads explode like at the end of [italic]Scanners[/italic] before they could start a boycott! Poor Chris Colfer believed his press, believed that he was a beloved star, and believed he was going to have a fantastic post-Glee career. "[51] On Metacritic, the series has a score of 81 out of 100, based on 44 critics, indicating "universal acclaim". The fallout must've been really bad because Colfer and Murphy never acknowledged each other ever again. You could also see glimmers of what a petulant mean girl Murphy could be on that reality show where kids competed for roles on Glee. Is it any good? There were only two seasons. Get the drama behind the scenes. Is that why they brought in that Down's Syndrome girl as Sue's minion? Murphy: I think that some of those actors representatives spun it in a certain way, to be quite honest, I dont understand. Plus it ruins the alliteration (is that the right term? click ACCEPT. R272 This may or may not be 2:30 of Corey Monteith fucking a guy with his uncut, Prince Alberted cock. R282, that's what they were looking for, someone with "everyman" looks. I am sorry, but I have to disagree. The original boys were kind of meh. More than that, Murphy went back to the press to blame the actors for the demise of the spinoff. R464: There are rumors that Murphy axed Ashley Fink to get back at Chris Colfer. Heather Morris was initially brought in to teach the Single Ladies dance, not to be a full fledged character. The series (subtitled Bette and Joan in anticipation of future seasons) centers on the backstage battle between Bette Davis (Susan Sarandon) and Joan Crawford (Jessica Lange) during and after the production of their 1962 film What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?.[1]. Criss's "I Dreamed a Dream" is, well, it's not my cup of tea, let's just say that. The Lea/Morrison hookup was common knowledge among Broadway/theater people -- long before the rest of the US discovered them in GLEE. This was also around the time of the show getting a multi-season renewal, which was just tempting the gods. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. [46], Feud had its official premiere at the Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles on March 1, 2017. In a reversal of fortune that would make Crawford cackle in her grave, its likely that shell be the one up for awards at the end of the year rather than her co-star. [40] FX released another teaser on January 23, two on February 5, one on February 7, and one on February 8. R176 No, Chris Colfer is secretly straight! It peaked with Jonathan Groff's Bohemian Rhapsody performance. Is this thing on? Was he one of the male actors who slept with Ryan Murphy? The pilot was very exciting with the aforementioned black comedy. That kid is a climber who surrounds himself with climbers. Did Chrissy Colfer sleep with Murphy? Unless, of course, that relationship was with someone who had a sizable stash of child porn on his computer. The answer to R359's question would appear self-evident to anyone who ever observed either of the two parties mentioned. doesn't mean it was actually good. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Probably the biggest " unsung heroes" of the Glee "cast" are the session singers who stood in for the cast whenever backing vocals had to be recorded. And the constant stream of people telling Quinn what a horrible spoiled brat she was. It hasn't been long enough yet for full blown nostalgia, but definitely long enough for some distance and perspective. What r311 said, I don't know where some people get this crap but Chris Colfer was openly gay long before Darren Criss joined the show. Brennan remained EP on Glee till the end. Hated seeing him with Tina since they had zero chemistry. The writing was terrible and the vast majority of the actors weren't particularly talented or attractive. Thanks for all the fascinating tea! Simpson.[65][66]. R1: They weren't exactly friendly with each other because the crazy fans thought they were a couple in real life. I'll be curious to see what kind of work Grant and Melissa get when their shows end. None of the original cast besides Jane Lynch couldn't even get another successful TV series. How did it seem so, R99? I think money wise Chris Colfer made bank with his children books. Fans blew up at Murphy who, true to form, got pissy and blamed the whole episode on Colfer and Cory Monteith. Weirdly, I'm bingeing on glee right now. Blake Jenner stopped posting on his Instagram when Melissa Benoist wrote her allegations (never naming him although it was clearly him). I wonder how Ryan felt about Chris winning a Golden Globe and getting to meet Julianne Moore. Not Kurt. So many fucking guys wanted the role of Finn, they all did. It's like Darren ripped it off from Chord. It was too premature. Jane Lynch's character would have been a better fit for that song and it could have been somewhat moving, but all plot and character went out the window by season 2. 5. You so ghetto. There was a rumor that Pettyfer knocked her up and her management team told her to abort it for her career. That alone deserves him a push into a grease fire pit. I want to know who was fucking who & what kind of drugs everyone was doing. Trips around the world. They drove each other crazy", "Jessica Lange is Joan Crawford. Just ask the paint on Mark Salling's Lexus. Blind Gossip said one day that Colfer and Criss were a secret couple, and the next day that they hated each other. The results are simply devastating. The excerptLa Cte Basque 1965included intimate detailsaboutBabe's unhappy marriage to CBS founderWilliam S. Paley. And Taylor's tweet was promptly deleted and replaced. Yep, at first it did have that dark comedy vibe. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. [quote]The first season reminded me very much of the movie, "Election" - the same slightly dark undertone and feel. He turned 19 eight days after the pilot aired on May 19, 2009. Then it was reworked as a TV script for Murphy's production company, with Murphy, Falchuk and Brennan as executive producers. Alongside his enthusiasm for high-school song and dance clubs and Lady Gaga as a vampire (see below), Murphy has a huge passion for Old Hollywood. Later, when Heather wanted to reduce her commitment and Naya wanted to be less bitchy, they reunited the two halves of Quinn's character back into one with Kitty, which was probably the iteration of Quinn closest to what Ryan had intended from the pilot. I pointed out in the recent thread that maybe, though this appears nowhere in the interview, he was happy that quinn's character got changed, even if the original idea was ruined, because it made her better. I also think any specific tension was more professional than personal, but RM has admitted to crossing that line too much with the cast, so he may have gone about it wrong. I thought Naya had the most potential. But he's got a great body--I would not kick him out of bed for eating crackers. R186 Brad Pitt isn't well-endowed, and she was engaged to him. R11 There's something about him that always rubbed me the wrong way. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. She'll be fine in the long run if she plays her cards right. She is most well known for her appearance in Battle of the Fittest Couples but she has appeared in other television series such as The Vampire Diaries (The CW), Lucifer (Netflix), Timeless (NBC), Kurt is almost always crying in the first two seasons. R346 Ha! Darren was a total team player and did his best to get along with everybody and that made Chris even more furious, because he couldn't get anyone to join his side until Lea needed someone to join her to get rid of her enemies (like Naya). R343 I never watched that GLEE project show. He was some devout Christian with some hyper activity disorder (sorry, can't remember the exact one) and he had some freak out for having to perform on Last Chance Performance (basically the Lipsync for your life - Rupaul's Drag Race - segment) and acted like the show demands of him to take a shit on his Christian beliefs. I love this thread! She wasn't a minor character. She ignored him and looked down the floor avoiding eye contact. [quote]however, those aren't major things. Bette and Joan learn some intimate details about each other, but their animosity climaxes on set as filming winds down. But what happens is when you have a cast of nobodies that suddenly in a week are on the cover of every major magazine in the world and getting involved in sex scandals and drug scandals, we all went off the rails on that show. Ryan Murphy directed People vs OJ, but it wasn't his creation. Its a charming piece of period drama but more importantly a galvanising argument why we should celebrate our differences and refuse to let the moral majority shame or shape us. Chris Colfer is much less fey in person, while Darren Criss is much more so. It was a ratings hit and songs were smash hit downloads on iTunes. I've always wondered how Kevin McHale felt about scenes like the "Roar" performance, where he's dressed to go on safari and all the others are dressed like Tarzan and Jane. Once again, Murphy assembles a top-rank cast, including Kate Mara, Billy Porter and James Van Der Beek. Good job. Forever. It was all Murphy's fault. Check out the killer opening titles from, "This Is the Super Bowl Commercial All TV Fans Are Talking About", "Feud: Bette and Joan review dueling Hollywood dames make for frothy drama", "Dame Olivia de Havilland sues US network FX for 'completely false' portrayal in new series, "De Havilland v. FX Networks LLC, et al., Case No. Especially when Ryan pretty much was done with Glee after season 3. it's annoying when people say that RM had a vendetta against Chris. [27][28] The following month, Demi Moore and Molly Ringwald were added to the cast. Ryan Murphy wanted her out, and Quinn became homeless, a punk, a baby snatcher, a paraplegic, and a fake-lesbian, until she finally stopped showing up altogether. I'd bet money that Melissa eventually comes out about all of it and a bunch of Murphy actors back her up because Lea is pretty well hated. Actually, the first 13 episodes were the best and could've easily been truncated into an ELECTION-like black comedy. The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story, 2018. Hahaha I'll watch you on youtube bitch! They were generally fun. She came back I think in the competition and sang "Buenos Aires" from Evita. She's an okay actress, but Diana and Naya were better. I agree, they brought absolutely NOTHING to the show. Remember when Rachel & Kurt broke into the Gershwin theater to see where Wicked was performed? The only time he reminds people of his existence is at the book launches. [Quote] How did Lea and Melissa get along? At the end of that show I vowed Id never do that again, and I feel it didnt happen with American Horror Story, I didnt go out to dinner every night with my cast, I wasnt socializing with them a lot. "It was just too vast and expensive. Fucking ridiculous. R366: He had great PR but he made the decision to transition to writing. I can't stand Lea Michelle in real life, but Rachel was a good character and Lea was a natural fit for her. Murphys first show is a high-school drama that plays out like Glee without the songs. His years on American Horror Story qualify him to do something spectacular. Changing story lines in order to punish actors makes no sense. Those were Finn and Rachel. Matthew Morrison is another one who is attractive on stage but looks very strange in closeup on screen because of his oversized features. Finn would have attempted something boring like learning to be a football coach (hardly any chance to get some music, or musical, icons doing guest appearances). [R156] I don't think money is the issue for both of them, but no matter how much money Colfer got he'll never be on Broadway and that's eating him every day and that's why he's so jealous of Darren. They believe they were dissed because a real disabled person was not cast. Ratched relays the origin story of the despotic nurse from Milos Formans 1975 Oscar winner. And like Andy he also starts threads about himself. The Dianna stuff is mostly based on things Ryan has said (which I think are taken out of context) about Dianna "ruining" Quinn by making her too likable. r491 I know, so stupid. I mean, that decision haunts you for the rest of your life. I always wondered what the deal with her and Cory Monteith'a relationship was. When the network ordrred the second half of the first season, some things were retooled, including pregnancy subplots. So there are few surprises. So unrealistic and the same thing just kept happening over and over. We were going to do a spin-off where the three of them were going to go on. factor. [quote]You could also see glimmers of what a petulant mean girl Murphy could be on that reality show where kids competed for roles on Glee. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google And you never hear about him getting in any trouble. R333 could you elaborate on that? I don't think her namewas ever made public but she came from Disney, [quote]I don't think her namewas ever made public but she came from Disney. [quote] Ryan Murphy and Dianna Agron hated each other. And further, I didn't say that they weren't going to write her out, I said I found it hard to believe that they didn't flesh those story lines out prior to, not that they didn't. Cameron Mitchell was a bigger douchebag than Samuel. Did they fuck or is that a fan girl rumor? You couldn't have Finn go to NY and try to make it in Broadway. They didn't get along but i can't see Lea cockblocking Melissa. Ashley Fink was meant to be a bit player and was brought back as a potential mate for Puck during very stressful contract negotiations to punish Mark Salling and push him out of the show. Maybe it was her. Ryan Murphy Admits 'Glee' Should Have Ended When Its 'Spirit of Joy' Left After Cory Monteith's Death Kevin McHale Calls 'The Price of Glee' Docuseries Trash: 'Don't Make Me Speak on This Again' Nothing really exceptional about it, that's how things work in development. One of the themes running through Murphys work has been his advocacy for the shunned, misunderstood and marginalised. "Glee" was a massive world-wide phenomenon at one point. I think he's doing ok that he doesn't need to be jealous of Darren. Kit Harington joins as the CEO of a green tech company, but dont bet on ethics. [quote]There were many boys on our show that didn't get along. i think she had a two episode trek. I feel like there was lots of talk that Chris Colfer and Darren Criss didn't really get along Lord, if you were Darren Criss and you had to act like you loved miss woman, you wouldnt be happy about it either. A really great half-season show that ran for six. Where Feud was all snark and spite, Hollywood is dreamy wish fulfilment on a pogo-stick. The Glee member with even the remotest possibility of posting on online forums (gay or otherwise) would be Kevin McHale, and even he has better things to do. Ryan did say that Dianna ruined Quinn, but he went on to say that Quinn was written to be an unsympathetic bitch and Dianna made her sympathetic. In his early his thirties, Murphy was clearly finding his feet creatively. Now DREAMGIRLS original london cast. Karofsky was cute! Speaking of climbers, Naya Rivera has a terrible mean streak, but you really have to earn it. He couldn't sing, couldn't dance. I do think that chris was not 'bullied' but something approaching that on set but that this may have been more from lea with nobody intervening, which naya refers to in her book and chris endorsed. I hated the dreadlocked guy from season 1. "[15] The Crawford-Davis feud was also documented in Shaun Considine's 1989 book Bette and Joan: The Divine Feud. That actress backed out at the last minute. After Chord returned from his "quitting" Ryan turned him into a male stripper so he'd have to show more skin which was something Chord had been uncomfortable with. I may check it out. Ian Brennan originally wrote it as a screenplay and had been shopping it around studios for a few years. R135 Ghetto trying to be posh always end up failing. [quote] What was the deal with Agron and Michele? With Cuba Gooding Jr as OJ, David Schwimmer as his lawyer best pal Robert Kardashian (father of Kim), John Travolta as shark-like defence attorney Robert Shapiro and Sarah Paulson as prosecutor Marcia Clark, season one of American Crime Story turned the Simpson story inside out. Of course none of this was why FOX scrapped the spinoff but Murphy didn't want to admit failure. That was fucking weird. R259 or anyone else. No. The audience loved him right away. R447: Never been in syndication. "Transexual" is not a bad word, is it? A month later, Rivera says that Salling convinced her to try ecstasy with him. At least it ended when it did and didn't overstay its welcome like Friends and Modern Family. Groff was fucking one of the choreographers. Jack forces Aldrich to create a power play between the two actresses for hype. Rachel pining for Finn could've been spread over a whole season and created a lot of interesting plots. Well, every celebrity has some tards who are psychos and overly invested. r334, my apologies. Murphys greatest hit and a series that was divisive from the start. Things you buy through our links may earnVox Mediaa commission. Off subject, when did they change that rule on DWTS. The later additions had the most success: Darren Criss, Grant Gustin, Melissa Benoist. Will they be coming back? He also auditioned for another jock. why is Darren Criss pronouncing it as "It's not UnJewsual" ? Are you interested? Turns outthe New York Academy of the Dramatic Arts (NYADA) was just a front for an elaborate drug-smuggling ring. Real. I forget. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, "The New Normal" was killed before he could get bored with that. Murphy passed on Aaron Tveit because he was too good-looking. this is another point: critics weren't shy in the early seasons to say dianna and chris were the best of the young actors, and used RM as the figurehead of glee to blame all their crappy plots on. It makes sense, though. On a Thursday afternoon in early December, Susan Sarandon was on the set of Ryan Murphys much-anticipated drama Feud, examining a prop Oscar. (edit: if wondering why reviews didn't point out lines/insults to others: they did, not as much as far as I remember, but the point was that while insults to others seemed charming, quinn and kurt were painted badly.) No, the peak of "Glee" remains the first 13 episodes of Season 1. He had to have been pissed about how everything went down. The Quentin Fleming character is an author and Jessica Lange basically says to him that she paved the way for his successful book series. [citation needed], Feud received highly positive reviews, with major praise for Lange and Sarandon's performances. BTW, by "he's not", I meant he's not all that nice. Also his future in Hollywood is not so bright if he even has any. all the 'evidence' of songs for the pair can go either way: on the one hand, they both were made to sing too high a lot (this could be for story, but I would have thought the show would prefer to have them sound good above all), on the other hand, they got time warp which was clearly there just for chris and dianna. It's one of those shows that has been tainted with the scandals, deaths, and diminishing quality of each season. [29][30] In March 2023, Chris Chalk announced his involvement in the season. She dared to challenge Ryan Murphy on her character's lack of dimension and she paid for it. Unlike you R243-who uses the f-word. [quote]I said two things in an interview: I said, yes, they are graduating and they will not be back on the show for Season Four. R113 understand the difference between lead character and major character.